ed brooke, he was elected 35 years ago. 35 years ago. so there's a long gap. >> there is a long gap. when we look at new jersey though and cory booker taking on, you know, lautenberg, primariying him from the left, do you think that's going to be the case? >> well, you know, there's some other issues with the other senator from new jersey, bob menendez. it's really unclear. but the lautenberg people have dug in their heels. it doesn't seem lautenberg wants to step ahead. the problem goes keeper than whether or not cory booker should primary this senator. you don't have a lot of african-americans who have statewide electoral experience. most black elected officials are congress people who represent mostly black districts. so you have to really go to republicans like tim scott who are, frankly, used to crossing over and being elected by mostly white constituencies. >> progressives are going to say on the front end of things, you know, what governor of massachusetts did, a good thing. putting in a placeholder. behind closed doors they will